Showing posts with label akshaya patra. Show all posts
Showing posts with label akshaya patra. Show all posts

Thursday, 11 February 2016

Akshaya Patra's Padma Sri Award




How can Madhu Pandit dedicate the recognition for this mundane karmi award to Srila Prabhupada? Feeding the hungry and "leading the cause of education among the government school children" is not Prabhupada's (or Lord Chaitanya's) mission. Prabhupada and Bhaktisiddhanta spoke strongly against Vaisnava devotees getting involved with these social "welfare" programs and Prabhupada described government schools as "slaughterhouses". And why is Madhu Pandit presenting Prabhupada as "a true visionary who wanted to see a hunger free world"? This is totally mis-representing Prabhupada to the public as a mundane social-worker. This is bogus and offensive. Prabhupada actually says that a hunger free world is not possible.:

“Fifty years ago, when I first came to Bombay, at that time I was grhastha. I saw there were persons lying down care of footpath, and fifty years after, we are seeing the same thing is going on. No change. There is a class of men who must lie down care of footpath. There are so many institutions, daridra-narayana-seva. But why there are daridras still? That means you cannot change. It is not possible. It is not possible. Just like a man who has done something criminal and he is in prison. Can you take him out? It will be another criminal action. If you try to take him away from the prison house by some means, then you’ll be punished and he’ll be punished, both. This is the law state. Similarly, how you can surpass the stringent laws of nature and the laws of God? That is not possible.” (Bhagavad Gita 13.21 lecture)


"In the Bhagavad-gītā we don't find anywhere a single line that "You raise funds for," I mean to say, "giving relief to the poor" or "to the suffering." Is there any instruction in Bhagavad-gītā? You have read. Can you find out? But these people, they have become more learned than Kṛṣṇa." (SB 2.9.4 lecture. 22 April 1972)


Akshaya Patra do not distrubute prasadam. Secular goverment regulations do not allow them to. Neither are they allowed to have kirtan or preach at their (GMO?) bhoga distribution programs. They are simply assisting the government to get village children to abandon their vedic culture and attend "slaughterhouse schools". Some may get menial jobs such as working in call centres, the others will be at the mercy of the government, used like slaves just so they can eat. They cannot go back to village vedic life because the government schools do not teach cow-protection or self-sufficient farming. Why do Akshaya Patra facilitate these anti-varnashram activities and serve the cause of Kali in the name of Srila Prabhupada?

“Akshay Patra trustees want the organization to be secular. It cannot associate publicly with religious mission." (Madhu Pandit Das)

Akshaya Patra - Vision and Mission
Akshaya Patra's Philanthropy


Servants of Kali such as Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, President Obama and Monsanto (who have a partnership with Akshaya Patra) approve of their activities, but does Srila Prabhupada approve? Whose cause are they serving?

Saturday, 3 May 2014

Jaipur HKC Prabhupadanugas 'Struggle For Truth'

Why are Madhu Pandit's Akshaya Patra devotees disturbing the preaching of Dayalu Nitai and the Prabhupadanuga devotees of Hare Krishna Community (HKC) Jaipur?



Srila Prabhupada's devotees of HKC Jaipur

Soon after ISKCON Bangalore arrived in Jaipur and built their Akshaya Patra temple, some of the devotees staying there have been maliciously disrupting the preaching activities of the Hare Krishna Community devotees (who were already established and preaching successfully in Jaipur for years). IB/AP wanted HKC to move 200 miles away to Jodhpur and become another of their AP branches, but HKC wanted to continue their services in Jaipur and remain independent as Srila Prabhupada instructed.

“I wish that each and every branch shall keep their separate identity and cooperate keeping the acharya in the center. On this principle we can open any number of branches all over the world. The RamaKrishna mission works on this principle and thus as an organization they have done wonderfully.” (Prabhupada Letter, February 11, 1967)

HKC have been trying for 4-5 years to arrange an istaghosti meeting with Madhu Pandit and other IB/AP senior devotees to peacefully resolve this problem but so far they have all refused to participate. Now, since this matter has became public, ISKCON Bangalore are blatantly mis-representing and ignoring the true facts. Instead of meeting to settle this issue they are now trying to further defame and demonize Dayalu Nitai & the HKC devotees on their official 'ISKCON Truth' & 'ISKCON Times' websites by saying that HKC are "attacking Madhu Pandit", trying to link them to Dayaram, Radhanath & the bogus-ISKCON GBC, saying they are "using Akshaya Patra's name/logo to collect donations", calling Dayalu Nitai a "crook", saying they "support homosexual acaryas" and "sympathise with the bogus-guru program" and so on, without presenting ANY actual evidence for these offensive FALSE accusations:


“Apaisunam means that one should not find fault with others or correct them unnecessarily. Of course to call a thief a thief is not faultfinding, but to call an honest person a thief is very much offensive for one who is making advancement in spiritual life.” (Bhagavad-gita 16.1-3)

UPDATE 11/5/14: As well as not allowing any comments on their "Truth Revealed" articles on their 'ISKCON Times' and 'ISKCON Truth' websites, IB group are also deleting all the comments made on their 'ISKCON Truth' FB page. Around 20 comments made by various devotees were deleted yesterday. So much for "Truth" (the last leg of Dharma in Kali-yuga).

Tuesday, 21 January 2014

Bharatarshabha Dasa (ISKCON Bangalore) Censors Prabhupada's Instructions re. Kirtan Standards

Bharatarshabha Dasa (ISKCON Bangalore) wrote the following article on ISKCON Times but did not include any of Srila Prabhupada's instructions regarding kirtan standards & the public presentation of Krsna consciousness. We sent him many quotes (below) but he refused to publish any of them in his article saying that they were not relevant! Why is he deliberately hiding Prabhupada's instructions from the devotees? Is he acting independently or is this ISKCON Bangalore policy?

Western Music Kirtans at ISKCON Bangalore:



ISKCON Bangalore's 'Yugadharma Band' 2014
Hip-thrusting, rock & rolling bramachari Sarvalakshan Das (Akshaya Patra / FOLK Jaipur) also ignored/deleted Prabhupada's numerous quotes about Kirtan standards:

'Kirtans with Western music - there is no harm' - Srila Prabhupada
By: Bharatarashabha Dasa       
A reply to objections raised by some devotees on ISKCON Bangalore conducting the New Year eve celebrations where Western music accompanied kirtans.
The New Year eve event was organized by ISKCON Bangalore as a means to engage the youth in an innovative manner through which Krishna consciousness is packaged into a programme. It generally starts with playing the recording of a lecture by Srila Prabhupada. It also has many devotees preaching about the importance of Krishna consciousness. Plays are staged by the youth based on Srimad Bhagavatam and Chaitanya Charitamrita. Interspersed between these are kirtans of ISKCON sung to the accompaniment of Western musical instruments with pop or rock and roll music. But some purists, so-called strict adherents of Srila Prabhupada are objecting to this saying that it is against Srila Prabhupada’s teachings. They are even going to the extent of branding ISKCON Bangalore devotees as deviants and not true followers of Prabhupada.

The so-called strict adherents’ assertions on this issue can be summarized as follows: 
1. We should never have any kirtan at any time by using Rock and Roll, and a true follower of Srila Prabhupada never participates in any such event. 
2. Srila Prabhupada by his personal example demonstrated that it is better to do only traditional kirtans all the time and never use pop or Western style because even in the Mantra Rock Dance he sang kirtans with kartalas.
3. Anybody who is conducting an event with Rock and Roll is deviating from his example and is faithless in his words and is a deviant and not a strict follower of Prabhupada.
4. Srila Prabhupada sung some 50 odd melodies and only those should be sung and nothing else.
5. This is the Vaishnava standard of kirtans and we should strictly follow it and never deviate from this and if we do so we are going away from the Parampara.
6. Pop,  etc., should not be used at all for singing songs related to Krishna

The Mantra-Rock Dance poster by Harvey W. Cohen (created December 1966)

Most of the above assertions by these so-called adherents are assumptions and are not directly mentioned by Prabhupada. On the contrary he himself by his personal example authorized packaging of Krishna conscious content with pop and other forms of musical tunes with a view to attract gross outsiders. These so-called strict Prabhupada adherents are adding words into Prabhupada’s words and actions and interpreting it in a particular way due to their bias. They lack faith in the instructions of the spiritual master. There is a clear precedence in Srila Prabhupada’s action itself to prove that he allowed the usage of POP and other forms of Western music to be part of packaging Krishna conscious kirtans and philosophy to attract gross outsiders, but he also warned that these should not be part of regular temple kirtans and programmes.
The most obvious precedent is the Mantra Rock Dance event:
Source: wikipedia
To raise funds, gain supporters for the new temple, and to popularize Prabhupada's teachings among the hippie and counter-cultural audience of the Haight-Ashbury scene, the team decided to hold a charitable rock concert and invited Prabhupada to attend. Despite his position as a Vaishnava sannyasi and some of his New York followers objecting to what they saw as an inappropriate invitation of their guru to a place full of "amplified guitars, pounding drums, wild light shows, and hundreds of drugged hippies," Prabhupada agreed to travel from New York to San Francisco and take part in the event. Using their acquaintance with Rock Scully, manager of the Grateful Dead, and Sam Andrew, founding member and guitarist of the Big Brother and the Holding Company – who were among the most prominent rock bands in California at the time – Shyamasundar and Gurudas secured their consent to perform for charity at the concert, charging only the "musicians' union minimum" of $250. Malati Dasi happened to hear Moby Grape, a relatively unknown group at the time, and she convinced the other team members to invite the band to play at the concert as well.
After a short address by Prabhupada, Ginsberg sang "Hare Krishna" to the accompaniment of sitar, tambura, and drums, requesting the audience to "Just sink into the sound vibration, and think of peace." Then Prabhupada stood up and led the audience in dancing and singing, as the Grateful Dead, Big Brother and the Holding Company, and Moby Grape joined the chanting and accompanied the mantra with their musical instruments. The audience eagerly responded, playing their own instruments and dancing in circles.
Because of their bias, these purists are forgetting that Srila Prabhupada himself authorized an event called Mantra Rock Dance to be conducted for the purpose of raising funds for the temple and he himself attended it. He did not criticize Allen Ginsberg for singing Hare Krishna Mantra in his own musical tune in mantra rock dance. He did not object to the various musicians playing their instruments accompanying his kirtans in the mantra rock dance event.

Please read the following conversation that took place in Vrindavana on Nov 25th 1976.
Prabhupada: No, no. Not in the temple. If the wordings are all right, so there is no... If there is no mistake in the set-up of the wording, the change of musical tune, that is not harmful.
Gopala Krishna: This one tape that Alex has made, he gave me a copy in Bombay to listen. I just played it...
Prabhupada: Hare Krishna, this vibration, you can make in different tune. We are already doing that.
Hari-sauri: We're talking about these songs that they are writing.
Jagadisa: Philosophy songs.
Prabhupada: And therefore we have to see the words.
Hari Sauri: Like this "caterpillar had a change of heart."
Jagadisha: If the words are all right, then they can be played in the temple?
Gopala Krishna: Because no one can hear the words. It's the pop music that people hear.
Akshyananda: Actually the words are just like modern pop songs. You can't tell really what it means. I suggested to those people. I said, "Why don't you put music to Prabhupada's books? Take the words straight from your..."
Hari Sauri: No, Prabhupada's approved this method for attracting karmis.
Akshyananda: Yes, not for devotees.
Hari Sauri: But the thing is once you become a devotee, we don't need...
Prabhupada: Yes.
Akshyananda: That kind of music also reminds us of past bad activities, sinful activities.
Hari Sauri: The question is whether should it be played in the temple or not?
Prabhupada: Temple may not be played. What is use of playing in the temple?
Gopala Krishna: I know from practical experience, Srila Prabhupada, that... I just played this Alex's record. It's all current pop music with English philosophy wording. And all the brahmacharis were so agitated, they came to my room to listen and they were, you know, really making fun of it like it was a pop...
Akshyananda: Because that style of music it reminds us of the nightclubs or whatever it might be.
Prabhupada: Therefore I said it is better not to make these records.
Gopala Krishna: Just your these records and parampara records should be played, I think. There are so many tapes of your records.
Hari Sauri: This style that they are doing now, they explain that they wanted that because then that way, they'll be able get them played on the radio. Otherwise they won't play bhajans or anything on the radio. But there's a distinction between that kind of music and pure Krishna consciousness music. Even though the words indicate Krishna consciousness, most of the songs are written in such a way that it's indirect. It's not directly Krishna.
Gopala Krishna: But you can't hear the words.
Prabhupada: Yes, indirect.
Hari Sauri: They give this thing, "The caterpillar changed his mind," like that. It provokes some speculation.
Prabhupada: No, indirect for gross outsiders, not for us. Therefore they should not be played in the temple. Gross outsider only.
<Note by Prahlad Das - As we can see in the Bangalore rock band videos above, there are many Brahmacaris & temple devotees dancing along. Are they also "gross outsiders"? And the poster for SANKALP 2014 actually states "ONLY FOR FOLK MEMBERS">


In this conversation, Srila Prabhupada is authorizing the use of POP music to attract gross outsiders by songs composed in English about Krishna conscious philosophy by his disciples. 
ISKCON Bangalore is conducting a programme on New Year’s eve to engage the youth in Krishna Conscious activities  and we are getting budding musicians to  sing our Narasimha kirtan, etc., in POP or Western style to attract “gross outsiders”. Many of these students sing the kirtans in college on their own and it is making them think of Krishna. They would have anyway heard some hard rock. But instead they have been guided to hear about Krishna and we are thus attracting a gross outsider as mentioned by Srila Prabhupada.
This is one of the many events which ISKCON Bangalore is conducting for the youth. We engage the more serious youth in nagar sankirtan, book distribution, cleaning the temple and other services. Many of them eventually take to serious chanting and take initiation and some even join the temple as sevaites.
On the other hand, ISKCON Bangalore is also sensitive to Srila Prabhupada’s instructions that kirtans in the temple are to be standard. The devotees are using instruments authorized by Srila Prabhupada and are singing tunes as per standard in the temple and festivals. In fact the temple has forbidden using Bongos and other instruments in the kirtans and temple related programmes. 
These so-called adherents should see the context of how a particular instruction of Srila Prabhupada was followed rather than going overboard and branding ISKCON Bangalore as a deviant and not a true follower of Srila Prabhupada.
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The Prabhupada quotes Bharatarshabha Dasa / ISKCON Bangalore / FOLK Jaipur deleted and refused to publish: http://padaproblems.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/srila-prabhupada-kirtan-standards.html