One thing that becomes evident quickly is how Puranjana's (Tim Lee/PADA/krishna1008) style of communication only benefits the bad guys, Alex Jones style. I have personally banned Tim Lee from my FaceBook wall long ago, and he knows why.
What kind of tactic is this? I don't care to find out who these guys really are (I highly suspect), but I will say this.
The manipulative individuals in this atheistic society running behind the scenes know well what is really going on from the very early beginning. Since they know that the truth can not be hidden, they come in early and appropriate themselves of it (own the narrative); in other words, become the 'owners' of the truth, start disseminating actual truth and subsequently gaining some credibility, but then later start to mix lies and misinformation within their material. And there is one key element: focus only on what's bad but never offer tangible solutions and never show interest in engaging in any type of honest dialog with others who may challenge their tone, in fact attack them instead. In other words, Cointel: Infiltrate your group, create disruption, and run off the reasonable pacifists within the group. That way the actually good and sincere can never influence or speak.
Not only that, but the Alex Jones style is all very well known now in all circles. That guy has been totally exposed as a hateful shill.
Anyway, so what ends up happening? That kind of approach actually ends up waking up some people in the course of their history, but for the most part alienating a whole host of others, because most thoughtful people and innocent objective truth seekers (which is the majority), are not interested in listening CONSTANTLY (I say constantly) to words such as "molester-messiahs, penis, child-chopping, homosexual pedophiles, penetrating this and that, kill, kill, kill, etc." on a constant basis. All things which may be true to a certain extent but the message carries a special mix: the CONSTANT endless tirade of hate. Not that some of it may not be justified, but the incessant use of non-objectivity is exactly their ultimate goal and objective. Tim Lee's record for instance shows precisely this.
This gets people, who don't see their game, divided and alienated (or accepting and partaking of his hate, great isn't it?), or hating the messenger and subsequently the message, or altogether dismissing any real objective facts, or worse yet: not learning anything at all and simply going away. Back to sleep!...
What motivates them to act in this way? Very simple. It's just a way to block the DOOR from the massive influx of the genuine who are interested in truth, which is a river flow. See, most people have 'normal' lives, are reasonable, therefore you must know HOW to talk with them, not simply WHAT to tell them. But instead what they do is simply alienate everyone on purpose, stealthy done sometimes over long periods of time.
So even within the awakened group of individuals, what happens? When such people are given the microphone and/or own it, everyone spends their time on the so-called 'justified' hate being spilled and not enough time on what really matters, which is the truth as it SHOULD be spoken and presented!
Tim Lee's material is a perfect example of hateful speech going on for decades.
My research informs me that this all simply a tactic, documented by many others in all branches of truth movements. If they were actually interested in truth, everyone would (and can) use a little more discretion in their manner of speech. Besides, all the 'hate' that needed to be said, has been already said NUMEROUS times. When is it ever going to stop? In the view of the shill it should never stop!
Over the years I did wake up to some of the things going around by reading Puranjana's material, but my reading of it was just enough to extract what I needed from it. His tone actually alienated me so much (it never changed) that I had considered him incoherent and unqualified to be speaking. His so-called leadership in these matters actually made me stay away from it all.
Swimming the river upstream can get pretty intense, because while learning the truth, being confronted with hard evidence, you nevertheless find that who is out there representing such evidence are elements who carry the tone and choice of presentation on par with the satanic urban dictionary.
As for myself, I never took him as some kind of superhero. I always felt that if I wanted to learn the truth I would have to read and learn from all, even the enemy's material. In other words, I had to think for myself, research for myself.
I would dare say that placing Puranjana (Tim Lee) as some kind of hero is simply fanatic excitement on the part of a newcomer, as if he/she has finally found their messiah. Not only that, but if Puranjana was for real he would humble himself and not be constantly bragging about what he claims he did, how much he did, or how incredible he thinks he is. (eg. saving the ex-Gurukulis from a 'suicide-epidemic).
All super heroic acts? Not really. His so-called heroic act in drumming up the Gurukuli lawsuit, simply contributed to something which was actually drafted and designed to further destroy ISKCON from within and from without, both sides cooperating from their respective positions.
Puranjana did alright, although I still suspect him of either having lack of communication etiquette (incompetence) or of working for the bad guys, likely both. Alex Jones did alright too, just like all the other 'truther' shills, including one of the most thoughtful and eloquent, namely David Icke, and others. All rascals!
(Krishna Kirtan)
What kind of tactic is this? I don't care to find out who these guys really are (I highly suspect), but I will say this.
The manipulative individuals in this atheistic society running behind the scenes know well what is really going on from the very early beginning. Since they know that the truth can not be hidden, they come in early and appropriate themselves of it (own the narrative); in other words, become the 'owners' of the truth, start disseminating actual truth and subsequently gaining some credibility, but then later start to mix lies and misinformation within their material. And there is one key element: focus only on what's bad but never offer tangible solutions and never show interest in engaging in any type of honest dialog with others who may challenge their tone, in fact attack them instead. In other words, Cointel: Infiltrate your group, create disruption, and run off the reasonable pacifists within the group. That way the actually good and sincere can never influence or speak.
Not only that, but the Alex Jones style is all very well known now in all circles. That guy has been totally exposed as a hateful shill.
Anyway, so what ends up happening? That kind of approach actually ends up waking up some people in the course of their history, but for the most part alienating a whole host of others, because most thoughtful people and innocent objective truth seekers (which is the majority), are not interested in listening CONSTANTLY (I say constantly) to words such as "molester-messiahs, penis, child-chopping, homosexual pedophiles, penetrating this and that, kill, kill, kill, etc." on a constant basis. All things which may be true to a certain extent but the message carries a special mix: the CONSTANT endless tirade of hate. Not that some of it may not be justified, but the incessant use of non-objectivity is exactly their ultimate goal and objective. Tim Lee's record for instance shows precisely this.
This gets people, who don't see their game, divided and alienated (or accepting and partaking of his hate, great isn't it?), or hating the messenger and subsequently the message, or altogether dismissing any real objective facts, or worse yet: not learning anything at all and simply going away. Back to sleep!...
What motivates them to act in this way? Very simple. It's just a way to block the DOOR from the massive influx of the genuine who are interested in truth, which is a river flow. See, most people have 'normal' lives, are reasonable, therefore you must know HOW to talk with them, not simply WHAT to tell them. But instead what they do is simply alienate everyone on purpose, stealthy done sometimes over long periods of time.
So even within the awakened group of individuals, what happens? When such people are given the microphone and/or own it, everyone spends their time on the so-called 'justified' hate being spilled and not enough time on what really matters, which is the truth as it SHOULD be spoken and presented!
Tim Lee's material is a perfect example of hateful speech going on for decades.
My research informs me that this all simply a tactic, documented by many others in all branches of truth movements. If they were actually interested in truth, everyone would (and can) use a little more discretion in their manner of speech. Besides, all the 'hate' that needed to be said, has been already said NUMEROUS times. When is it ever going to stop? In the view of the shill it should never stop!
Over the years I did wake up to some of the things going around by reading Puranjana's material, but my reading of it was just enough to extract what I needed from it. His tone actually alienated me so much (it never changed) that I had considered him incoherent and unqualified to be speaking. His so-called leadership in these matters actually made me stay away from it all.
Swimming the river upstream can get pretty intense, because while learning the truth, being confronted with hard evidence, you nevertheless find that who is out there representing such evidence are elements who carry the tone and choice of presentation on par with the satanic urban dictionary.
As for myself, I never took him as some kind of superhero. I always felt that if I wanted to learn the truth I would have to read and learn from all, even the enemy's material. In other words, I had to think for myself, research for myself.
I would dare say that placing Puranjana (Tim Lee) as some kind of hero is simply fanatic excitement on the part of a newcomer, as if he/she has finally found their messiah. Not only that, but if Puranjana was for real he would humble himself and not be constantly bragging about what he claims he did, how much he did, or how incredible he thinks he is. (eg. saving the ex-Gurukulis from a 'suicide-epidemic).
All super heroic acts? Not really. His so-called heroic act in drumming up the Gurukuli lawsuit, simply contributed to something which was actually drafted and designed to further destroy ISKCON from within and from without, both sides cooperating from their respective positions.
Puranjana did alright, although I still suspect him of either having lack of communication etiquette (incompetence) or of working for the bad guys, likely both. Alex Jones did alright too, just like all the other 'truther' shills, including one of the most thoughtful and eloquent, namely David Icke, and others. All rascals!
(Krishna Kirtan)
Interesting. There are some who suspect that Tim Lee (Puranjana Das) may have been involved in the murder of Sulocana. When Sulocana was hiding out from Kirtanananda's henchmen Tim Lee called Sulocana's mother who told him where her son was staying, believing Tim was his friend. No-one else (including the police) knew where Sulocana was at that time. The next day Sulocana was assassinated! Of course Tim Lee has denied this, saying that it was some-one else who called Sulocana's mother pretending to be him. Years later he said that it was the police who gave New Vrindavan information about the whereabouts of Sulocana to encourage the murder, hoping that this would give them an excuse to bust Kirtanananda and bring down the entire New Vrindavan community.
ReplyDeletebest to remain anonymous when you know not of what you speak. while the eurdition of purunjana's tirades is not what of many of his more intellectually inclined brethern find to their satisfaction, that he has not pursued further'instutional enlightenment' as some of his so-called'SENIOR BRETHERN?'should be more to his credit rather than his detrement. would a college educated LIAR like rabidra swarup, tamal krsna, or hrydayananda be more to anyones liking? and who would care for the opinions of such people?
ReplyDeleteANON has said:'
'When Sulocana was hiding out from Kirtanananda's henchmen Tim Lee called Sulocana's mother who told him where her son was staying, believing Tim was his friend.
and further:
'Of course Tim Lee has denied this, saying that it was some-one else who called Sulocana's mother pretending to be him.'
and since both of these cannot be true, with no proof whatsoever, ANAON asks us to deny a sworn 1st person testimony and rather believe his hypothesis, unconfirmed by any source whatsoever. and he accuses TIM LEE of deficient thinking!
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ANON further said;
'No-one else (including the police) knew where Sulocana was at that time. The next day Sulocana was assassinated!...Years later he said that it was the police who gave New Vrindavan information about the whereabouts of Sulocana to encourage the murder, hoping that this would give them an excuse to bust Kirtanananda and bring down the entire New Vrindavan community.'
which is a HIGHLY ACCURATE PORTRAYAL OF EVENTS, that even a neophyte court watcher would know. if TIM LEE in any way comtributed to SULOCAN's untimely demise, it was inadvertantly only, by commiting the grevious error of trusting anyone in the law enforcement branch of the organized government that carried HARE KRSNA DEVOTEES on a list of subversives to be controlled and dealt with. 'friendly tips' to BEZERKELEY PD, of movement of principles'(TIM LEE was the name sulocan was registered under in the motel, when the FBI finally tightened their noose and arrested him), is understood by some to be all the itinerary required for finding SULOCAN upon his release. the topic was covered in full by the NVC surveillance team, working with WARDEN BORDENKIRCHER(former marshall county sherriff), and assisted by the FBI. the understanding, DEADLY ACCURATE as it proved to be, was that SULOCAN would 'go home to mommy for$', which he did, and then out to the west coast to RELOAD!', on both DOPE & AMMO, which is also EXACTLY what SULOCAN did, thus making himself any easy target for those plotting, based on such things. PREDICTABLE! fatally so.
if the implied insuation, 'that the government had nothing to do with the SULOCAN ASSASINATION, other than the clean up and susequent arrests!', is to be believed, as this author attempts to convince us, we are still looking for one fact from the author to disprove TIM LEE's aaertion. we are not finding any such proof in ANON's speculative hypothesis.